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Vision Ears VE8

Comparisons

Advanced AcousticWerkes W900 ($1999)
AAW’s W900 shares some core similarities with the VE8; its stage might even be slightly wider, but in both cases, the wide and tall stage creates a large screen, while offering a big sound. Similarly, both offer precise imaging and excellent separation, executed in similar fashion: while their layering is good, they primarily rely on their width. In addition, both are fairly neutral in tone, although the W900’s mid-treble dip takes some light from its tone. Accordingly, its presentation is smooth, and more relaxed. The VE8 in turn sounds clearer, with more authority in its sound. But its key difference is the forwardness of its staging – the VE8’s more upfront stage positioning results in a more engaging sound, with larger instrument notes. By comparison, the W900’s staging is more laidback.

When it comes to signature, the W900 offers a deeper-reaching sub-bass, while the VE8’s mid- and upper-bass is relatively more enhanced. Accordingly, both the VE8’s instruments and vocals are larger, although the W900’s have a bit more vocal power and solidity, despite their neutral size. But the W900’s treble stands a bit on its own, as a mid-treble peak adds a touch of brightness to its treble timbre. While it brings out more detail, it tends to do so in an isolated way. The VE8’s treble timbre is not only better, it works more coherently with the midrange.


Empire Ears Zeus-XIV ($2099)
Zeus and VE8 make for another mighty standoff, both top-tier iems in price and performance: high resolution, and precise imaging. The VE8’s stage is wider than that of Zeus, while Zeus in turn offers a more 3D stage, with equal proportions between width and depth. But in both cases, their separation is outstanding, resulting from their precise imaging, and the cleanliness of the stage. Zeus however relies more on its layering, and the VE8 on its width. In both cases, their tone is relatively neutral, as neither sounds particularly warm or bright.

But more than their performance, these are two iems that are defined by their midrange; terms as authority and forwardness readily apply. Similarly, both can be considered engaging. Even so, they demonstrate key differences in their midrange presentation: the VE8 provides significantly more body to its instruments, which sound forward and bodied. In addition, its mid-bass is richer in quantity, compared to the relatively neutral bass of Zeus. Zeus’ midrange in turn is centered around its vocals; they’re denser, and bolder. VE8’s vocals are large in size, but Zeus offers more solidity. Accordingly, they switch positions in forwardness, with Zeus putting its vocals upfront, and the VE8 in turn its instruments. While both monitors offer impressive top-end extension, the VE8 provides the more accurate treble timbre, while having the quicker decay.

Jomo Flamenco ($2179)
Jomo’s Flamenco offers a rather unique design, consisting of 11 drivers, and two switches to modify the sound. Overall, its signature pends between relatively neutral to slightly bright, depending on the mode. Compared to the VE8’s wide stage and thick notes, Flamenco’s stage is relatively more compact, relying on its depth and layering for separation. But as it shares a similar midrange bump as Zeus, it again offers a slightly more dense vocal presentation, although the VE8’s is a bit larger in size. While its instruments are a bit leaner, their transparency is greater: the Flamenco is a technical masterpiece.

The VE8’s bass is roughly similar in impact to that Flamenco with its switch up, although it still edges it out in terms of quantity; the result of a richer upper-bass, which additionally provides more body to its instruments. Not that Flamenco sounds lean altogether, for its an engaging signature in its own right. Due to its switch, Flamenco provides the option of a relatively neutral treble similar to the VE8, or more sparkle on top. Their treble pace is similar, as is their extension.

64 Audio A18 ($2999)
64 Audio’s A18 and the VE8 both share an engaging sound, due to their forward stage positioning. However, A18’s emphasis is on excitement due to its brighter upper mids, as well as upper treble lift; as a result, the A18 is especially upfront in its detail retrieval, pushing finer detail to the foreground. In addition, its sub-bass extension is slightly greater, as is its impact – overall, the A18’s bass hits with more authority, especially with its M20 module. The VE8’s bass is equally enhanced, but conveys more of a mid- rather than sub-bass impact. In addition, the A18’s stage is slighty wider, although the VE8’s is taller. Both iems share similar depth, and primarily rely on their width for separation.

But where the A18’s brighter tuning sounds more stimulating, the VE8 powers through with a full-bodied sound: both its instruments and vocals are larger in size, giving the VE8 better ability to fill the headspace. In addition, its signature is slightly more coherent, as well as smoother. Both iems are top performers when it comes to technical ability, although the A18 has the edge when it comes to resolution and transparency. However, the VE8’s imaging is more precise. Personally, I tend to prefer the A18’s exciting treble for electronic or classical music, where I would favor the VE8’s bodied midrange for rock or vocals.

Conclusion

With the VE8, Vision Ears brings us back to the core of why we listen to music: to be engulfed by it, to be thrilled. Despite being a flagship model, the VE8 displays no interest in aiming for a neutral or reference approach. Not by skimping on performance, for when it comes to technical ability, the VE8 is certainly up there with the best. But even though I’m one to pay close attention to subtle aspects of performance that distinct good iems from really great ones, the VE8 doesn’t really do subtle; it’s all about its presentation, and the VE8 offers a powerhouse of a sound. In a way, the VE8 listens like a Mercedes: it provides a big sound, while it’s comfortable and easy to listen to. But when you step on the gas, the performance is there: its general pace is quick, and its resolution high.

I’m fortunate to be able to fall back on different iems for different moods, or genres. But if I’d had to pick one to do it all, the VE8 might just be the one – at least for my genres. It won’t necessarily be a top pick for classical music for example due to its thicker note reproduction, but the VE8 easily breezes through contemporary genres like rock, pop, reggae, EDM, or easy-listening music. And not just by reproducing the music, but by bringing it to life.

 

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Nic is currently in pursuit of a PhD degree in social neuropsychology, while trying not to get too distracted by this hobby. In pursuit of theoretical knowledge by day, and audiophile excellence at night. Luckily for him, both activities are not mutually exclusive which helps to lighten the workload. Always on the go, Nic's enthusiasm for hi-fi is focused on all chains of the portable system: iems, cables and daps.

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15 Responses

  1. Thankfully you have compared it with the a18t. I’m having a hard time deciding which to get.
    However, which should I choose if I want a neutral sound, great resolution and precision type of CIEM?
    A18t or the VE8?
    Thanks a lot!

  2. Hi buddy, that is indeed exactly how I would summarize the VE8: full-bodied and engaging sound, with a smooth treble. Unfortunately, it’s also what makes the VE8 unique even within TOTL territory. It’s possible that there are some midtier iems that share somewhat similar traits (although I doubt you would a get similar staging, with helps considerably when you have such a bodied sound else it lead to congestion); however, I have to admit I am not very familiar with midtier models myself. I don’t live in a place where I can demo stuff, so I only know what I own 🙂

    I’m sorry I couldn’t be of more help, but it might be worthwhile to ask the other THL reviewers, or post a question on the shootout thread perhaps. Thanks again!

  3. any suggestions for someone enamoured by the VE8 but with a skinnier wallet and prefer a universal?

    something that is more affordable than either the VE8 or the phantom?

    what i appreciate about the ve8 are its almost “wall of sound” density, bass quality and weight, easy treble and engaging nature.

    thanks!

  4. You’ve more than earned the right to slow down after the shootout 😉 I’ll be curious to have your review of the i4, personally three weeks in I am still blown away by those they are very special and also the reason I am going straight for the VE8. I never crossed the 2K barrier but there is yet another big step up with those TOTLs…

    I’ll let you know when I get my VE8 what I make of them, again thanks for your invaluable insight!

  5. Hi David thanks for the generous compliment as usual! VE8 indeed won’t disappoint. I still owe an i4 review, but ever since I’ve slowed down it’s taking a while to start up again hehe.

  6. As usual, great review, this is the one that makes me jump to TOTL CIEMs after hesitating for the EM10 I went for the VE8 and I am sure I won’t regret it! The waiting part will be the hardest although the LCD i4 will keep me busy 😀

  7. Hi Clarence, please forgive my late reply. I only briefly tried Fourte at Canjam London. No doubt it’s a spectacular iem, but it’s pretty bright. It sounds quick, resolved, with a very open and 3D stage. But its vocals are a bit lean, and the treble is quite hot. Zeus-XIV is something different altogether. Though not to the extent of Fourte, its resolution is high, its stage is 3D. Zeus’ bass falls more in the neutral category, where Fourte has a rounder, deeper, and more analogue bass resulting from its dynamic driver. But Zeus-XIV’s strong suit is its vocal presentation: full-bodied, rich, and dense vocals make for a powerful vocal reproduction. Its tone is a bit neutral, so I pair with a warmer dap/cable for a natural sound.

  8. it is entirely pragmatic, i am a committment phobe and ciems are hard to off load into the used market, whereas with uiems i could recoup at least 70% of its value upon sales.

  9. Thanks buddy. I understand your hesitance when it comes to Zeus, but keep in mind that ADEL is pretty different from non ADEL. With ADEL Zeus loses its low-end, but also its midrange density, while becoming fuzzier. Non-ADEL Zeus-XIV has a bold, more powerful midrange, especially its vocal reproduction.

    As for the VE8, how come the hesitance for customs if you’ve been able to try it yourself? At least you can establish in advance you like it 🙂

  10. VE8 is a full package in terms of both signature and performance, I would rank it among the best along with A18, Zeus and 5-Way.

  11. great review nic, i did exactly the same comparison last weekend (one of the few benefits of living in asia) and i wholeheartly agree with your impressions with the exception of the Zeus (though it was the Adel version) VE8’s density is so addictive and so different in tuning from other totl iems i’ve tried that i did a double take! Unfortunately, VE’s dedication to their guiding principle towards quailty preclude them from making universals, otherwise i would be saving up for them.

    Not a fan of Zeus tho

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