So Much for So Little – A Review of the Oriveti New Primacy


Due to New Primacy’s very warm signature, I find the best source to be one that is dead neutral, or has a little extra energy in the treble region. These IEMs don’t need any additional warmth from a player.

Shanling’s newest DAP, the M3s ($279) is a perfect pairing for New Primacy. It’s much closer to neutral than most players I’ve tested, with a very clear, clean sound. Especially out of its balanced port. It gives NP more air and light, which in turn gives you deeper insight into the elements within the track. The bass has nice tight attack and is not bloated in any way. The vocals are absolutely liquid. M3s>Affinity>New Primacy is a brilliant system, and won’t break the bank.

The Opus#1 by theBit (Currently $288.93 Review HERE) is still the best player I’ve heard under $600. In spite of what it’s going for now, I consider it an honest upgrade over the M3s. Tuning is about the same: neutral, with maybe a touch of treble brightness. But with Opus, the details really come forward in an expression of higher fidelity. The music takes on new dimensionality and depth, bolstered by insane dynamics. New Primacy’s notes hold extra weight and authority. Soundstage may be a little larger, too.

The Cayin N3 ($149, Review HERE) is a low-budget, small-profile, warmth monster. Audio refinement takes a hit at this price-range, but you’ll be hard pressed to care. New Primacy glories in unbridled warmth and musicality. Not the best pairing, but still highly enjoyable. Clarity goes down a notch, as does resolution, but in return you get bass and lushness for days. It’s hard not to love it.

My reference player is the Opus#2 ($1,149, Review HERE). I’d call it neutral-warm. Just a hint of warmth over a very resolving, powerful source. It’s the most natural DAP I’ve ever heard. Opus brings New Primacy to its full potential, with intense dynamics, meaty notes, and the widest of soundstages. There’s good clarity and a perfection of balance. All frequencies are under tight control, working at peak efficiency.

Boy, how I love these IEMs. Both the Oriveti New Primacy and Basic are a pleasure to the ears. No matter how many top of the line earphones I get my hands on, Oriveti reminds me what wonders abide at the lower and mid-tier when a company truly knows its craft. They’ve forged splendid monitors for on the go use. The ergonomics, combined with sound quality, makes these an easy recommendation, and two IEMs I shall reach for again and again.


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Pinky is an artsy twat. Illustration, graphic design, writing. Yet music escapes him, and always has. He builds his own cables, and likes to explore the craftsmanship of others. He's a stabby one, also. At the first hint of annoyance, out comes the blade. I say he's compensating for something... in a big bad way. If we all try really hard as a collective, maybe we can have him put down.


  1. Wow i am so disappointed with these, the mids are over the top & the highs are harsh to put it mildly, turn up the volume & all control is lost with just a crackly mush of painful noise, wow i wont be going off your reviews again.
    The 1 more triple drivers are less than ½ the price but way more than twise the sound quality.
    Severely disappointed.

    • I’m glad you found something that suits your tastes better. But I cannot agree with your description of the New Primacy.

      • Hi! Please note that I am not on anyones side.

        His review is great especially co-relating it with other reviewers not only here at THL.
        Please consider the fact that we do not have the same ears as they do, if you find any disappointments, frustration or whatnot, I suggest to just keep it in to you as they do have a different measurement on how things work.

        If the 1 more triple river works for you, then stick on to it and stay happy with it.
        Your opinion might be different to others, just my 0.2 cents hehe, no offense intended.

  2. Hi pinky! Somehow the oriveti new primacy is a bit harsh in terms of treble but Im using its stock cable.
    Would it smooth out everything if I change the cable?

    Also I was able to listen to Qdc 4ss 5sl and 8ss 8sl and gemini,even the new product of ee the merlin collaboration of EA and EE.
    Same tuning with the spartans but they are somehow bright for me with 40 to 50% price increase.
    With the adel, will this flat out everything?

    At the moment Im leaning on the 4ss that has smooth overall presentation with nice detail retreival, big amount of staging depth and width with tight presentation for reference tuning, it is so accurate and polite and will put you to sleep wearing them at night.

    I was able to listen to noble products and so far the sage is the smoothest of them all with liquid mids. Though sub bass presentation is just close to NP.

    Thank you for your quick reply as always as I was able to narrow down my options 🙂

    • If the Oriveti is too bright for you, I’m at a loss. It’s one of the warmest IEMs I’ve found. I can’t say changing a cable will make enough of a difference. You may just be screwed. lol.

      I suggest giving your ears (and brain) a week to adjust to the sound. See if you don’t grow to like it. That is a common thing I’ve had to do from time to time.

      • Ive been usiing this for like 2 to 3 weeks now.
        Burnt this iem for like 178 hours now.
        When singers getting on the high notes, its like something is piercing through my eardrums.

        Maybe I just need to get used to it.
        I also noticed when trying the ares 2 it is so smooth.

        Maybe I am treble sensitive, maybe.

        • Also I find the sage to be smoother and has better resolution over the new primacy, maybe it is really and upgrade to it but I do hope you can listen the QDC line up from 4ss to gemini 🙂

    • You’re confused. It’s not that cables have a sound per say. They merely effect the sound. All of them do. It’s physically impossible for them not to, for they stand between the source and the monitor. And humanity has yet to discover a perfect conductor.

      While it may not be technically accurate to say a cable sounds this way or that, it is useful on a practical level, since it conveys an honest point.

  3. Nice review, I was waiting for it. My Yamaha eph-100 are dying and need a replacement. Had the FLC8S and lost them. I found them not ideal, missed the fun of the Yamaha’s and could not get a the right fit for sufficient bass.
    The NP has drawn my attention, would this be a good replacement for the eph-100, or go for another set of FLC8S with different tips for a better fit. Any other sub $500 suggestions? My dap is a FIIO X5II, 100% FLAC, 5% highres.

    • I just got the FLC8s in for review. Performance wise, I may put it a little over New Primacy in terms of clarity and detail. But you are right, the bass is not as full. Still quite satisfying, though. With the Black, Red, and Gunmetal filters, and JVC Spiral Dot tips, I find it wonderfully warm and musical.

      • Thanks, I used red/black/gold as setup with the supplied tips. I read that taking out the black plug and leaving this hole empty would produce a little more bass.
        Have you tried this? Or can you try this for me?

        I was looking at the spiral dot tips but hvent tested them myself, so this sounds tempting.

  4. I totally understand you on the NPs. I was also demoing Campfire’s lineup next to the NPs and I only found the Andromeda to truly “upgrade” the NPs to the next level, a level where my ears were hearing all they could hear. But proportionally the “upgrade” felt pretty marginal, close to the 10-15% for about 3 times the price.

    I settled for NPs ????

    (delete previous comment plz)


      The only difference is detail retrieval and seperation IMO.
      but the mids somehow, is distant not intimate for me.. I end up selling my NP.

      Atleast I have narrowed down what I really like.
      Forward mids and transparency hehe.. I am thinking of getting the qdc 5sh.

        • what sorcery is this?
          how did you read me? haha nice guess!
          I am going to listen to that 2 weeks from now and the QDC 4SS and 5SH.

          I have auditioned CA Andromeda and yes, it is just 10-15% more what the new primacy is giving, better seperation, clarity and somehow transparency increased but not drastically in my ears.

          BTW I am going to go with Universal as I like the thought of others be able to listen to my gears.

          Thank you again for your quick response as always Pinky 🙂

  5. Your awesome as always, Thank you for your quick reply.

    Sage will be the same price as their new product, but I am still waiting for it to be released.
    I just got an email from them and it will definitely be available in December for $600.00.

    Thanks again!

  6. Hi!

    Great review! I am really excited for their new product in December because of their success releasing the New Primacy.

    Question for you is, do you think Noble Sage can also be an upgrade to this?
    Should I get the Ares 2 or Eros 2 or should I just go with Affinity for this IEM?
    My M3s will arrive next week and I am looking forward buying this instead of the Sage but I think before going with the Sage, I might wait until December for their new product to be available in the Market.

    Thanks in Advance! 🙂

    • I would indeed consider Sage an upgrade to this. I thought about adding it in the comparisons section, but decided to stick with all hybrids.

      Sage is clearer, and with a bigger soundstage. Higher resolution also. And even though Sage doesn’t have a dynamic driver for its bass, it does some awesome stuff of its own, and I feel the low-end comes very close.

      Personally, I’d recommend the Ares II over the Affinity. It does an even better job of bringing out the treble in very warm IEMs.

      I don’t have the Eros II for comparison, sorry.

      • Lucky for you two, I have all of those cables!

        It depends on what type of sound you’re striving for, I actually think the Affinity finds better synergy than the ARES II since it aids separation and bass depth more though it isn’t as open within the higher registers. The EROS II is the most balanced sounding cable, I’ve found it to be more versatile than the ARES II though if you want a slightly brighter sound, the ARES will indeed provide that. The EROS II has the greatest resolution to my ear, it’s my preferred pairing, albeit a pricey one, since it doesn’t alter the tonality too much but really brings out the technicality the NP is capable of.

        Hope that helps,

        • Wow nice! I am thinking of thor 2 as well in December but probably I will go with eros 2.
          I am still waiting for the new product of oriveti and I have a high hopes expectation to it and faith that it will even blow iems under sub $1000 (I Hope).

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